Cheryl Rickman Interview

Cheryl Rickman runs her own group of businessesof the market and, often, circumstances outside a
CherryJam - with her partner James in Hampshire. Herbusiness owner's control. As I say in my book,
first company WebCritique a web copywriting and'Certainly, there is no entrepreneurial elixir you can
marketing consultancy, helps other businesses toswiftly drink to make you automatically successful
improve their online presence and Cheryl provides(except your own home-made passion-fuelled one).
workshops to local businesses on these issues.But you can prepare yourself to seize opportunities
WebCopywriter was borne from WebCritique andand make it happen for you.'However, if I had to list
provides web copy for small and large businessesattributes that would make the entrepreneurial life
alike. Her clients include AnitaRoddick.com, Businessmanageable, I would say, you need energy, passion
Link Wessex, Motorola and Microsoft. Cheryl's otherand to be dedicated and thick-skinned. You need to be
main business is the UK's largest independent onlineable to cope with times when your social life will suffer.
music magazine - Cheryl has been a freelance writerYou should be a great communicator and someone
for the past nine years, writing on business issues forwho enjoys networking, be it face to face or online.
Better Business and Internet Works magazine, andBut probably the most key attribute is the desire to
interviewing business leaders and music celebrities. Aslearn. That includes learning from mistakes.In my book I
well as writing The Small Business Start-Up Workbook,speak to a variety people from Anita Roddick and
which has a foreword by Dame Anita Roddick, CherylStelios to Simon Woodroffe, among others. All of them
is author of booklets, 111 winning ways to promote yourtold me how important listening and learning is as an
website successfully and 127 insider ideas on creatingentrepreneur. And, as soon as you think you know it all,
a winning website and has been a Judge atyou're history as a business. As a boss, if small
Hampshire's Awards of Web Excellence for the pastbusiness owners can remember that just because
two years.The InterviewDS: What inspired you tothey started the business doesn't mean they know
follow an entreprenerial path and in particular whatmore about marketing than the marketing chap,
inspired you to write the Small Businessbusinesses would flourish easier. Learning should be a
Handbook?CR: Well, I was never the 'selling packets ofcontinuous endeavour, so a capacity and interest in
sweets' kind of playground budding entrepreneur atlearning is a crucial attribute for any entrepreneur.DS:
school, and my main dream was to become aWhat do you believe are the necessary elements for
freelance writer, but somewhere at the back of mya business venture to succeed?CR: Good people. You
mind I liked the idea of running my own business,need the right people working with you, be that in
something small and (dare-I-say-it) manageable. (I nowterms of partnerships or staff. They are the lifeblood
know that smaller businesses are often harder toof your business, so you need to value them and they
manage due to the lack of people to delegate taskswill perform well. As Mike Southon says in The
to).However, it was mainly circumstance that led me toBeermat Entrepreneur 'People buy from People.' So
start-up, and the support and encouragement of myensuring that people working for you share your vision
partner, James. And I think it is that circumstance -and at least can serve your customers in a way that
which creates entrepreneurs. The majority ofthey themselves would wish to be treated, is the first
self-made types are ordinary people doingstep.You need to plan, as it's easier to be passionate
extraordinary things.Also, I guess some of myabout getting somewhere if you know where you're
'entrepreneurial spirit' came from my mum. She passedheading and how you're going to get there. Plus
away in 1991 when I was just 17. And, to cope with thecash-flow can kill businesses, so it's important to know
trauma and loss, I began to fill my time with trying towhat is going to be coming in and out of the business
further my writing career. Years after her death, oneall the time. Again, being open to learning is a key
of my mother's best friends told me that mum alwayselement. Many businesses fail because those driving
believed that I would someday run my own business. Ithe business are so caught up working 'in' the business,
had no idea that she thought that until a few years intoinstead of 'on' the business, that they can't implement
my first business, but that gave me the inspiration Ichanges, find time to learn or stay creative or on the
needed to think about writing my book. Havingball. That's why planning and hiring the right people with
succeeded in business through a combination ofcomplementary skills who you can delegate to are
determination and my own trial and error, I longed toessential success factors.These are just some of the
write a book that would offer insight andelements included in my Start-Up Checklist which
encouragement to young entrepreneurs like me whoappears in the book after the chapter called:
dreamt of running their own business, but didn't haveLESSONS FROM LEADERS IN BUSINESS: Success
the faintest idea where to start. Ultimately, The SmallStories, Mistakes and Top TipsDS: How essential do
Business Start-Up Workbook is the culmination of thatyou see a University education in achieving success as
dream.DS: Did you have any help setting upan entrepreneur?CR: Not essential. I went to University
WebCritique your first company or were you going itto a) make my parents proud b) delay the prospect of
alone?CR: In terms of advice I received help andworking for a few more years and c) because with
guidance from my Local Enterprise Agency, but gotA-Levels reading the Media Guardian I realized all the
most of the information I needed from the web. Injobs I wanted to be able to do were only open to
terms of finance my personal bank turned me downgraduates. For me, although I ended up on lower or
for a business loan, so I set up a new account - greatsimilar income to many of my peers, I needed to be a
while it was free, but not so useful now it isn't.graduate to get my editorial and writing positions.
Choosing the right business bank is a crucial decisionHowever, I'd have learned a great deal more if I'd gone
and worth spending time on. I'm with Lloyds butinto a publishers and worked my way up. I believe
wouldn't recommend a bank who's business managerswork experience counts for a lot more (just as some
are difficult to get hold of and don't see thepeople I sent my CV to as a graduate believed).
longer-term bigger picture. My book includes questionsWhat's more, my partner James is more
to ask banks, and you can compare UK banks at orentrepreneurial than me (and he has the gift of the
What was the biggest challenge you faced in bringinggab, is more confident, etc). He didn't go to university,
your idea to fruition? How was it overcome?CR: Theso that proves my point that university education is
first was to challenge my own assumptions aboutdefinitely not essential in achieving business success.
whether or not I could do it. Everybody has someIndeed, my BA (Hons) Degree in Media with Cultural
element of fear going into it for the first time, but I hadStudies may well have hindered me in some ways. I
such a great support mechanism in my boyfriendcould have been working all that time and saving up to
James, that he fuelled my own belief in my ideas andfund my own business. And, if you look at the most
capabilities. The second challenge and probably thesuccessful people in UK business, the majority of them
biggest ongoing hurdle that is shared by most smalldidn't go to college let alone university. Richard Branson,
businesses is funding and cash flow. Finding start-upSimon Woodroffe...DS: What are the three most
capital was far from easy, so I started up with aimportant lessons you have learned about business
minimal amount. It's certainly easier to borrow biggerand entrepreneurship?CR: 1. Everything always takes
sums than small amounts. In the early days I also foundlonger and costs more than you think it will (even when
getting clients to pay on time was a challenge. Nowyou are fairly stringent with your planning).2. Go with
this is less of a problem, but it is still a general rule thatyour gut feeling. Learn how to feel what that is and go
the bigger the customer, the longer they will take towith it. The buck stops with you, so you need to get
pay you. Another ongoing challenge is finding balance inas many decisions right as you can. Some of these
terms of thinking time. I think mostly about thedecisions will involve others trying to sell you something:
businesses and what's going on in them, and need tosupport or a service or a partnership. There is a time
find a way to switch off more frequently.The bottomfor diplomacy and sometimes you will need to listen to
line is that, as an entrepreneur, you have to challengeyour instincts and opt not to go ahead with a certain
yourself fairly regularly and be open to that concept.partnership or project.3. Listen and learn constantly.
You're often going to have to enter uncharteredYou must never think you know it all as nobody does.
territory and do something that is foreign to you andPeople like to give advice and tell you what they know
your skillset, but that's what happens when you wearabout things, so you can be constantly learning. You
many hats. And certainly, on start-up as a solealso need to delegate, and appreciate that there are
proprietor, you are the receptionist, marketingpeople out there who can compliment your talents.
department, MD, fulfillment house, sales team. YouRemember, it's all about people.DS: What advice would
wear ALL the hats, so being challenged on a dailyyou give to an aspiring entrepreneur?CR: Do your
basis becomes part and parcel of life as anresearch, find out what your potential customer needs
entrepreneur.Finally - realizing that you may have toare and test the market where possible. Surround
rely on others who don't share your vision/dream andyourself with a good support network and work out
who may/will let you down is a challenge to acceptyour break-even point before you take the plunge. Buy
and overcome. Once you find reliable and impressiveor create a checklist that you can go through before
suppliers you can trust, from a great web developer toyou set up, making sure you've considered everything
a great business card supplier, you learn to stick withfrom your company name and marketing to your
them.DS: What makes you most proud of yourwebsite, staff and expenditure needs.DS: What's the
entrepreneurial achievements ?CR: The book doesnumber one book you would recommend to aspiring
because it's something tangible that I can pick up andentrepreneurs?CR: Of course my own book - The
say 'Yes! I did this!'I must admit, I'm often so busy that ISmall Business Start-Up Workbook. However, another
only rarely stop to 'smell the roses' and appreciatebook I would heartily recommend is Anyone Can Do It
what I'm achieving. This is a lesson in itself that I haveby Sahar and Bobby Hashemi of Coffee Republic, and
to learn to do more and is certainly something that Ialso Anita Roddick's Business As Unusual - both are
suggest others do in my book. People (myself included)inspirational and help you get things into perspective.
should list their achievements more frequently. SomeBoth are available from Amazon.co.uk, or you can
books advise to do this on a daily basis, writing downorder Anita's books via her own site at What
mini-achievements.I guess the main milestones thatmemorable mistakes, if any, have you made in
make me feel proud of my achievements are:business? What did you learn from them and how can
The friendships and contacts I've gained sincethey be avoided?CR: Earlier I mentioned the
embarking on my entrepreneurial journey, including aimportance of going with your gut feeling. Well, if I'd
few 'celebrities' such as Anita Roddick and Wendydone that on at least two occasions, I could have
James, among others, plus a whole host of peoplesaved a lot of time, credibility and money. We chose a
who are part of the same online networks as meweb development team based on referral who ended
(such as and Digital Eve) who inspire me and makeup being appalling. They made very technical looking
me feel proud. The people I've managed to interviewsites which had a reduced Google ranking, terrible
both in the business world and music world makes meindexability and were poorly designed and coded.
feel proud. Learning is so important in life, and beingEffectively they talked the talk but didn't walk the walk.
able to learn from those who are 'living the dream' isIf I'd followed my gut instinct earlier on when the
important.Knowing that we're still doing it and arepartnership was being discussed, I'd have walked
stronger than ever makes me feel proud, with I Likealright... away from them. The partnership cost us
Music ( it's taken us four years, but we are now at acredibility, lost Google ranking, plus a whole year of our
point where some of the larger well-known brandstime. Fortunately, we found a new developer who has
and companies who've spent pots of cash but withmade our sites the best they have ever been. But
minimal results are now taking notice of us and canthat's just part of the roller-coaster ride of running your
see our strengths. We now have four years worth ofown business.DS: What are the best and worst things
great content, contacts and traffic and are ready toabout being an entrepreneur?CR: Best things are the
take the site to the next level, but we've not forkedfreedom and flexibility it gives you in terms of trying to
out on flash offices or streams of staff. And withreach your goals and in being your own boss. Plus, it's
Web Copywriter it's great that the original businessnice to feel in control of your destiny. The worst things
'WebCritique' has grown organically into this niche areaare that nobody can understand what it's like to run
of writing for the web. The fact that all businesses aretheir own business until they do it themselves and the
still going makes me feel proud.DS: How did youfact that you lose a lot of 'me' time and social life
actually fund your business to get it off thewhen you work long hours on your business. Not
ground?CR: WebCritique was launched with just agetting paid holiday is another negative and personally
small amount of my own savings, plus a £1500it's my occasional inability to switch off from business
bank loan. My personal loan bank refused me for amode.DS: Are there any other thoughts, insights, or
business loan, so I set up a business accountadvice for aspiring entrepreneurs that you'd like to
elsewhere. I also sold my car. Since then I've financedadd?CR: If you believe in your idea, have some proof
the business on cash flow, plus overdrafts andto back it up and have the energy to be your own
occasional loans, which is also the case for I Likeboss, go for it. Remember, it's better to try and fail than
Music, which is entirely self-funded. WebCopywriterto not even bother to try then get to the end of your
cost nothing as the design was done in house.I wishlife wondering, 'what if' and 'if only I'd done that.'Damien
there was more cash readily available in the form ofSenn helps entrepreneurs create compelling
grants to small businesses in all areas: both affluentbusinesses. He is one of the UK's top Business
and under-privileged areas.DS: What attributes do youCoaches as well as a fully qualified Chartered
think make a successful entrepreneur?CR: That's aAccountant.Damien is the author of the 'Senn-Sational
tough question because there are so many variablesSuccess Journal' and has developed his own coaching
that go toward making a business actually work; frommodel called the 'Senn-Sational Success System'.
personalities and people to the viability of an idea, state